Exede for an RV?

[Phainein]

Some of the systems available for RVs today use much simpler sef aiming stationary antennas.

Here's a RVer's option.

[niels]

Imho, switching back and forth would not be the issue, but keeping the dish 5' above ground level...

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In other words, a self pointing antenna on top of RV, would cost lots of bucks.

Apart from folding trailers, all RVs I know are well above 5' at the roof line; the lowest units I know about are about 9, and they go as high as 12 or 13 feet, so I think the height problem is non-existent.

The other solutions we've priced out come in between $6,000 - $9,000 for the antenna installed, and yes, people like us do actually buy those. Keep in mind that we're talking about a solution that is only used stationary, so point it once and forget operation is all that's needed. Typically these systems take 2-4 minutes to find the sat and then just do nothing, as far as pointing the dish is concerned, for the duration of use.

Niels.

[niels]

Here's a RVer's option.

I'm familiar with these antennae; are you saying these would be usable with the Exede service?

Niels.

[jimcoe]

I have had several customers who have regretted buying this type antenna for their Dish and DTV due to the fact that they usually prefer parking in the shade resulting in no line-of-sight and having to use a tripod instead. I would assume the same issue would apply to Exede or WB. Although not impossible, getting a tripod that would meet the 5 foot rule would be difficult. I am eager to hear from someone if the Moto-Sat (or similar) is offering an Exede antenna and the ball-park price. I know they make them for HughesNet and assume they will eventually if not already have one for Exede. I have made inquiries but am still waiting on the return call. I have done some work on some entertainers' buses in the past and see a potential market here in Country Music, USA.

[Phainein]

I'm familiar with these antennae

ViaSat todate, has not expressed an interest in reaching out to RV community. A ViaSat employee has stated, "But the price point of current antenna technology will have to drop quite a ways to get within the reach of the average RVer."

Have you been to this site, and this site?

[R_K]

I almost purchased this mobile, tripod unit when I was moving from Starband to WB in 2006. I think some systems might still be available.


http://montanasatellite.wordpress.co...ple-locations/

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Therefore, the HN9000 system is not an option for portable installations and locations and self-installations, however the HN7000S systems are still available though us and other HughesNet Dealers, and work well for portable installations, multiple locations and can be self-installed if necessary! Please note that if you try to contact HughesNet to order, they will insist on selling you the HN9000 Ka band system, and the only way to switch to an HN7000S system is through your installer and that option is only available if there is no line-of-site to use the HN9000 system.

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Regarding WB:

"Can I get WildBlue service in a mobile vehicle like an RV or boat?
Not at this time. WildBlue service was designed for stationary locations like homes and small businesses. We do not offer broadband service for mobile vehicles at this time."

http://www.wildblue.com/overview/faqs#3_4

[niels]

I talked to various antenna providers and to ViaSat yesterday. The short answer, as many here have already said, is that the scenario of mobile Exede service will not work out.

An antenna that can be put on the roof of an RV, and that will point to the right place, can be found and installed. Not cheap, but it can be done. The electronics that point the dish can be programmed to point in the right direction at a given geographic point in the U.S. No problem there.

However, things will apparently not work on the ViaSat side. I was told that a user is assigned to a specific transponder and beam, and that even with the antenna pointed correctly in a different place in the country, the modem would not be able to establish a connection unless it is on the same transponder and in the same beam. I was told this is not likely to change. There are other services ViaSat has available that would provide this ability, but they are not cost effective for my use.

Time to look for alternatives...

Niels.

[Phainein]

the modem would not be able to establish a connection unless it is on the same transponder and in the same beam.

To my awareness, ViaSat has two modems, consumer class, and "business class."

So, what is Jet Blue going to use?

Again, via ViaSat employee (most likely, corporate level) - "Once in place, this mobility support would lend itself to other applications such as Satellite News Gathering and first responders, and maybe eventually the RV market. But the price point of current antenna technology will have to drop quite a ways to get within the reach of the average RVer."

[Exede Tech]

Hello Neils and all the other Exeders out there.


[niels;44483]We're looking to install Sat Internet on our RV. In doing some research, it looks like Exede is the fastest Sat Internet option available right now, but I cannot find any information on whether it's possible to get this service on an RV.


I am glad you brought this up, and that i am not the only one wanting,
pushing for answers and common sense to accomodate the mobile high end
RV and remote news gathering broadcasting commercial market by ViaSat.

I mention this after reviewing all the informative responses from all the techs and installers out there. thank you !

I will just add my two cents based on my actual experience.

I have an exede stationary mobile unit operating for events and demonstrations on my white 4x4 suburban. [ above 5 ft !] It also sports a high gain wifi parabolic antennae for wifi gathereing and also an
omni wifi broadcast hotspot on a telescoping pvc mast, for covering a large sales/demo area.

We also usually set out a voip satPhone service as a courtesy phone.
In other words, we roll in for a demo and we can support a high speed
video demonstration and video and phone conferencing. over a wide area,
at the same time, with out loosing a byte !

We are also this way, able to do roaming demonstrations on a laptop.
We are able to have the Dish securely Mounted on our Suburban Roof,
or on a tripod, again above the 5 ft height. In each case every thing is simple and secure. We only are able to "roam" in our spotbeam.

SO, we have two other systems for the road.
One is the Hughesnet 7000 and the other is the Starband.
I know a good Starband RV specialist.
We keep them in vacation mode/ dormant service while not needed.

Now in all of these mobile "installs" it is considered, requested, required
that the user also be a qualified and certified technician, for reasons ,mentioned in other posts.... so in this regard, Starband full Conus coverage is the best choice as it is easiest to qualify for, and know a few safety things. Exede Wild Blue is NOT a walk in the park to be certified,
but possible with persistence. This makes for highly trained and qualified technicians in any case !.....

There are other services that use other systems and are auto tracking
and or auto pointing but do cost a way bit more to install and pay bandwith.

Nothing else except Exede supports VOIP phones , so easily and cheaply, which i feel is important in remote circumstances to so my point is this :
If you must have Strong Internet connections to have ALL resources available and use them accordingly
Ie 2 Exede Modems , one for port and one for destination, sprint or att wireless adapter, and a starband if you insist on being remote like me,
ie campground wifi is never an option for me when traveling.
Also a wifi radio like ubiquiti set as a station or recieve mode with a parabolic dish on it will plug into a wireless router and make a great hotspot reciever from any available signal like mcdonalds, even if you are parked way out back,
or miles away depending on LOS.

For the record, and disclaimer we do not endorse the use of Exede for mobile applications,
None Exist.
However we do for demonstration and sales purposes use the Exede in a controlled and safe manner, installed and supervised by qualified technician in a stationary mobile enviroment. It does work. It works well Actually !

Actually, if i were to have lo cost reliable remote or emergency communications system with full broadband and voip pone capability, there is no other than
Exede. Period.

Oh i guess if you are in the military, you might want to check out the actual stationary mobile ViaSat field satellite being demonstrated at camp pendleton ca

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJgwwc3FeQ
or search utube ViaSat Camp Pendleton

If any have questions or other
I can be reached directly @
email address removed


note we are authorized dealers / certified technicians and not
affiliated directly with ViaSat as such.

We're looking to install Sat Internet on our RV. In doing some research, it looks like Exede is the fastest Sat Internet option available right now, but I cannot find any information on whether it's possible to get this service on an RV.

I have called sales, and was initially told this would not be a problem. Since I was still doing research on other services, I did not place an order. When I called back yesterday to try to order service and get details, I was told that it's not possible to use this service on an RV if it is not in one location all the time.

Can anyone point me in the right direction as far as use with an RV? To be clear, I am not looking for a service to use while driving; I am merely looking for a service that we can use when parked. In case it makes a difference, we do travel all over the US, so our movement is not confined to a small area.

Niels.

[HiddenOkie]

I'd definitely do cellular. Now that the major providers all have shared data, it's worth looking into. We share 10 gigs between our iphones and our wifi gadget that we keep especially for traveling and mobile applications. I think it's like 20 bucks a month to add a widget with AT&T. That's a lot cheaper than satellite and the widget proves itself more useful than simply camping or rv'ing.